have you heard something like that come from this white house since the election? >> no, no, i haven't and that's why i think, you know, if you were going to bet you would bet very much against there being a deal. it is a question how serious everybody wants to get. there's a deal to be made and everybody understands what it would be. it is not that far from bowles-simpson was proposed in the bipartisan presidential commission in september of 2010, but nobody has been willing it make that deal. bill: take it outside of washington. our fox polling just conducted this week. should the federal government be forced to balance its budget just like american families? 85% say yes. >> oh absolutely. i'm sure, i don't know if there is a question out there, how do you feel about washington's inability to do that, i'm sure there would be another 85% who say they're sick and tired of it. people are fed up with the washington dysfunction but the leaders are unwilling and unable to bet together and make a deal. so as i say, again, there's a deal to be made. bill: one specific qu